Thought on the way home from the beach.

[spazzychic]

Pride and Hate are two sides of the same coin.

When you hate, it says, "You are not human."

With pride, it is, "I am superhuman."

Amber

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[postrophe.livejournal.com]

Idunno, they both may be part of the "Me Heap Big!" idea.. but so are lots of things.
I, for one, remain convinced that rape and chivalry grow from the same garden, as they're both male responses to 'woman'+'status' - but you'll notice how far they've carried it.
If that's "the same coin", it's a few miles thick...

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[spazzychic.livejournal.com]

Explain further on the "Me Heap Big" please so the other students will know what you're talking about.

Secondly, both create destructive divisions between people...

I would argue that a shirt that says, "*fill in the blank*" Sucks! and "*fill in the blank* Pride" can be equally harmful to a harmonious society.

[postrophe.livejournal.com]

"Me Heap Big!" is just good old self-aggrandizement and chest-beating, old as any of us monkey tribes who have been doing it since time immoral...
A similar variation, "WE heap big!", is just as common, and very commercially available, e.g: any monday night during football season.

Yes, I recall Fritters expressing worry about a local radio station's "La Raza!" ad campaign, as if it was a reverse racism; and Thudpucker made the apropos "If some white males tried this, they'd get SO bashed on!" observation.
I had to explain that nowadays "La Raza" means as much about racial identity around L.A. as "Rebel Roy's Used Cars" does down south.... (Notice, white males DID do it this way, and successfuly, too.)

I think it depends on how it's done.
You can put yourself/your tribe up without putting everyone else down. Self esteem does NOT have to automatically diminish those around you, and I feel sick about those poor jerks of junior-high mentality who once noticed that when they won, some other guy lost -- and worked it into a "whenever somebody else loses, that means I win!" life strategy. (I work with one of these. He loves laughing when someone - anyone - goes down.)

I notice, though, how insidious this mentality is. How many people out there are so stuck on a zero-sum game that they "KNOW" somebody else has to go down so that they can rise. My pride "means" you're screwed; it HAS to.

And to me, the worst part is people who see someone rising and "KNOW" that his empowerment "means" they're in trouble...
What does this say about us all?

"If there pushed any ragged thistle-stalk
above its mates, the head was chopped; the bents
were jealous else. What made those holes and rents
in the dock's harsh swarth leaves, bruised as to baulk
all hope of greenness? 'Tis a brute must walk
pashing their life out, with a brute's intents."

Eliot may be right. Mankind may yet be too young for the concept of power without price.

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[captain-slinky.livejournal.com]

That is so true! When I say "I hate Broccoli", I know that it's because Broccoli isn't human! If it were human, I would so totaly dig broccoli...

[spazzychic.livejournal.com]

Well, hatred for items is something else, and often hyperbole. Unless you are, in fact, planning a raid on the Jolly Green Giant factory right now to cleanse the earth of the green and bushy.

[captain-slinky.livejournal.com]

So "Hate" is conditional, just like love is?

Whoa... concept...

[msanborn.livejournal.com]

What if you say you hate that you're so "prideful" ?

[spazzychic.livejournal.com]

Then you're like a cat with a slice of buttered bread tied to it's back.

Or you're me. :)

[msanborn.livejournal.com]

I see :D

[postrophe.livejournal.com]

Is that like a bunny with a pancake on its head? (You have the icon.)

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